Posts by John Aquila

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Governing body deceiving members on purpose?

by wwjdnwt in

i was born into this religion.

i was a jw for well over 30 years.

i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.

John Aquila

maksutov
I think they both believe it (consciously) and also know it is not true (suppressed) - just like I did when I was a member.

I totally agree with this because it is exactly what I experienced. I believed it was true, but at the same time I knew it wasn't true. It's only when the contradictions are to much to bear that I finally decided to put them to the test and they failed. And even at that, it was difficult accepting. Now the question was, should I DA or should I fade and stay? The GB has more to lose, they are old, have no marketable skills to survived in the world, so if they admit the truth that it is a scam, then they get disfellowshipped, shunned, and are thrown in the streets. Why would they do that and cut their own throat?

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Sad about the past

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

today i feel deep sad memories in my brain.. visiting bookstudy with my parents, doing my best giving answers at 7 years old.. doing fieldservice every weekend and on an evening.. i could write so much story's about it.. we believed from our hart and listened to what the organisation told us.. it makes me sad, what a scam it became.. today i can't stand it.. i can cry about it.

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gorby.

John Aquila

I feel sad for my ex-wife who was born in and started pioneering at 16 years of age and is still pioneering and almost 60 years old. We gave up having children because we thought the end was just around the corner. We built up a nice life and by the time she was 30 years old we had a huge house paid off, new cars every year, a regular maid that cleaned the house every week, dinner at restaurants ever day. But once I started telling her some of the crazy things the WT had done like changing the blood doctrine to include fractions, she felt her everlasting life was threaten and filed for divorced. She stills believes the paradise is coming in her time. I feel sorry for her because I know they will throw her away like trash once they have no use for her.

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Horrible Bosses

by John Aquila in

i just heard this a few minutes ago by a jw friend who is still an elder in my old hall.

the kingdom hall i used to attend and my mom still attends was paid off many years ago and serves about 6 congregations.

one of the english congregations has a lot of financially well of members.

John Aquila

oppostate

@John Aquila:
Can you share the name of the congregation here or perhaps in a pm?

I sent you a PM

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Boyfriend and dating news - Any advice

by KateWild in

so i started dating on the internet in june and have met some nice guys.

i have put in a few recent posts that i have a boyfriend and wanted to give an update.

things haven't worked out sadly.. i was seeing him for a couple of months we were having fun and then things tailed off after christmas.

John Aquila

One person had a 12 paragraph essay on the brain disorder he has

Now that's funny- Diana.

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Horrible Bosses

by John Aquila in

i just heard this a few minutes ago by a jw friend who is still an elder in my old hall.

the kingdom hall i used to attend and my mom still attends was paid off many years ago and serves about 6 congregations.

one of the english congregations has a lot of financially well of members.

John Aquila

The Searcher
Lovely, and heart-warming to read. I just wish that one, just one body of elders - and the congregation - would unanimously stand together against the Org in something like this. Show unity against the bully, they can't demand private funds!

I wonder what would have happened if they would have stand against the Org? I believe the name of the account in the bank was not the Kingdom Hall. Maybe they were threaten with disfellowshiping, I'm not sure. As it is, the family's of the two elders are now split because the wives want to be loyal to the organization and the former elder husbands want nothing to do with the Org anymore. Either way the Watchtower has again damaged another two families with children. Plus all the members who contributed to that fund are split. Some are mad at the Watchtower and some are still loyal because they think God is behind them and not the elders. It's never easy.

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Would the discovery of EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE completely debunk the bible and religion?

by Black Man in

jw
friends

i think it would.

instantly.

in fact, i hope one day soon that we somehow encounter extraterrestrial life because i think there would be a wholesale rejection of the bible and any/all religious institutions.

John Aquila

humblepotato

I know some witnesses who ALREADY believe that there are other planets with intelligent life on them that Jehovah is working with. I hear people say, "What if there is another planet out there, where they didn't disobey, and they are living in paradise?" "Wow, cool!", is usually the response.

Wow, Just when I thought those inside the WT couldn't get any crazier.

Image result for wtf pics

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Horrible Bosses

by John Aquila in

i just heard this a few minutes ago by a jw friend who is still an elder in my old hall.

the kingdom hall i used to attend and my mom still attends was paid off many years ago and serves about 6 congregations.

one of the english congregations has a lot of financially well of members.

John Aquila

Magnum
It's like the org is getting blatant now - like it doesn't even care that it might alienate some (many?).

You know I really believe they don't care who leaves or who gets mad. They demoted DOs, old elders and COs, removed elders, kicked out many serving in Branches and Bethel for years. They don't seem to care how many leave as long as they can get as much money as possible in this short term. They are not thinking or caring about long term anymore.

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Horrible Bosses

by John Aquila in

i just heard this a few minutes ago by a jw friend who is still an elder in my old hall.

the kingdom hall i used to attend and my mom still attends was paid off many years ago and serves about 6 congregations.

one of the english congregations has a lot of financially well of members.

John Aquila

Village Idiot
“This is what Pharaoh says: ‘I will not give you any more straw. Go and get your own straw wherever you can find it, but your work will not be reduced at all.

Lol! I never thought of that. On the other hand, didn't the Nation rebelled and leave Egypt because of that? The Exodus has begun!

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Horrible Bosses

by John Aquila in

i just heard this a few minutes ago by a jw friend who is still an elder in my old hall.

the kingdom hall i used to attend and my mom still attends was paid off many years ago and serves about 6 congregations.

one of the english congregations has a lot of financially well of members.

John Aquila

CalebInFloroda
Marvelous, John, just marvelous! If only more had access to you in situations like these!

That's why I faded Caleb. And I don't try to wake anyone up anymore unless they take the imitative first and do their own research and then come to me with questions, but that rarely happens. So I'm not seen as a threat or apostate, just a weak spiritual brother.

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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?

by jonathan dough in

how much was the ransom?

gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.

gods gift required more.

John Aquila

If memory serve me right wasn't Jesus pretty much beaten to a pulp by the Romans before being crucified? How can Jesus be a sacrifice in such a condition in light of Deuteronomy 17.1:
You shall not sacrifice to the Lord your God an ox or a sheep that has any defect of a serious kind, for that is abhorrent to the Lord your God.

OMG Caleb, You just keep coming. If the governing body ever saw you, they would run, run, run.